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Old 06-29-2007, 03:09 AM
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I just had an appointment with a neurologist today who is convinced that my injuries are what they are and won't progress and therefore I should not have surgery. He is insisting that the osteophytes will not continue to grow. Is this true? Now I am really confused! I had envisioned them creeping along my damaged disk (sort of like a fungus) until they reached my spinal cord... Info and opinions would really help!! Thanks.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:12 AM
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Mine grew. It is easy to see by looking at my MRIs over time.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:26 AM
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Hey everyone... sorry I've been mostly gone over the last couple of months. It's been grueling, but I'm back and will be back for most of July... I hope to catch up and address all of the posts I have missed.

I have large osteophytes at c5-6-7. 3 years ago, Bertagnoli cautioned that if they get too big, I'll lose the option to do ADR. Because of the shape of the tools, they can't get far down the backside of the vertebral body to get to the osteophyte without compromising the endplate. I'll try to add some pictures... but I'll finish the post first.

When asked if I should do ADR now because if I wait, I may lose the option, he replied, "no". Since my symptoms don't justify doing surgery yet, I should not have 'preemptive' surgery, but I should do at least a yearly MRI and watch the situation, so if it looks like it's going bad... I can react quicker. My last MRI was March 2006 and it hadn't noticeably from a year prior. I am due for another MRI and have just been too busy... but hope to get one this summer. We'll see.

So, I think that in some configurations, osteophytes will continue to grow... I've seen them continue to progress... first they look like bracket funghi on a tree stump. They may turn a corner and progress towards it's partner across the disc space. Then they'll bridge the gap and will look more like a fusion than a fungus. I've seen this a lot with so-called 'claw osteophytes' on the anterior side of the disc.

In my case, they don't seem to be growing (at this time)... ask me after my next MRI.

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Old 06-29-2007, 01:39 PM
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Osteophytes grow, because usually it is your body feeling that the spine, or that area of your body is not supported sufficiently at that point.

After ADR, obviously some of the bone tissue has been taken away because they scrape the flat surfaces of the vertebrae, where they implant is going to be until it bleeds. Hence you have got to think your body suddenly shouts "hello" what is going on here, and decides to grow some more bone to support what has been going on.

Unfortunately bodies don't have 50-50 vision, and we sometimes get osteophytes in the wrong place. They can be dealt with and special cement put over where they had been removed so they don't re grow. This is a very simplistic explanation and I have got a huge article about it from Medscape but I don't think it would fit on a page here.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:35 PM
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Cool uh oh..

I've an appt. for my cervical spine on July 2nd with my regular OSS who I haven't seen in a year for my neck and almost as long for my low back (seen by other OSS who was authorized to do my spine surgery).

Ok, last cervical MRI done several years ago at least had osteophytes. Am going to ask for updated cervical MRI~ I hope these things aren't growing/causing probs anymore than anything else in the cervical spine.

BTW, danced and exercised yesterday for nearly an hour at home and today my low back is like I better walk on egg shells!

Who me need surgery?
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:21 PM
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Thanks, everyone! This whole process is absolutely crazy-making. And I wasn't totally off the wall in envisioning my osteophytes as fungus!
Just to be sure: am I right, Mark, that the implication of your post is that even if osteophytes don't show growth for a while, there is the possibility that they will begin to enlarge and therefore, need to be monitored by repeat MRI's?
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