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Old 05-15-2008, 07:56 PM
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hi

thought i would just add, i have ddd at l4/5 l5/s1 and i have only been given the option of fusion or dynesys, when i asked about adr i was told if the discs are more that 50% degenerated they cant give this option as there is nothing to fix them too?????????????
you really need to find a doc and get there opinion as usually they give you the best option and percentages of outcome.???

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Old 05-15-2008, 08:16 PM
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There are some systems that took the great idea of Dynesys and resolved many of the problems while adding improvements. Modular systems that can combine flexible and fused segments. These modular systems will allow conversion of a flexible segment to fusion if needed with minimally invasive exchange of the spacer, using the screw system that is already in place.

DSS from paradigm spine has 510k approval in the US for fusion. (flexible system not yet approved?)
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:46 PM
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Wendy,

There are doctors and then there are doctors! Some that are very sure of their skill may very well implant an ADR with less than 50% disc space left. I was supposed to have a fusion at S1/L5 but Dr. B decided on an ADR.

A problem could be distracting the disc space to implant the ADR. I gained 1 1/2" with my 3 level. I also sustained a lot of nerve damage that now appears to be permanant.

As for outcomes, some great candidates don't do well and some poor ones do great. Which one is best for you? Get educated and get opinions, more than one. Then YOU decide.

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Old 05-16-2008, 01:32 AM
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Dr. Regan won't consider an ADR at one level b/c it's such a mess.

Sharman, I'm sorry I missed your response but glad I found you again. I was just talking about adjacent segment syndrome, if it could be stopped 'half-way", and voila, I saw this important post. Thanks all for the info.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:52 PM
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Smile thanks for info and advice

thanks for the info and advice, i dont seem to get many replys on this site and this was encouraging.
i now have an app on the 4th of june to discuss which operation i will be having although still waiting on date for the op itself!!!!!!!!!!
but as soon as he said he'd op i mentioned adr and he said no out right so dont think this will be an option, he seemed quite keen on dynesys will open new thread when i get go ahead and hopefully get some advice from you all then? its hard here in the uk as for the time diff but have found this site really helpful just reading other peoples experiences.

thanks again x
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:13 PM
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Wendy... I'm looking foward to hearing what your doc has to say. Dale's point is well taken, that the recommendation for or against ADR often has to do with many factors, including comfort level of the surgeon, what his/her hospital will allow, how different procedures are reimbursed, etc...

As for no ADR w/less than 50% disc height... that sounds like a hard and fast rule in a place where each case is different. Here are my wife's pre and post-op pics... she's only 7 weeks out of 2-level ADR, but the severe prior disc collapse was no issue.


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Old 05-19-2008, 01:11 AM
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"As for no ADR w/less than 50% disc height... that sounds like a hard and fast rule".

Thank you; I never heard that. Very impt.

Best to you Wendy.
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