Dr bertagnoli

[Crystal33]

Some months ago i stumbled across a website by a USA girl working in Germany who had a back op by Dr B while there. I didn't bookmark the site but it is out there somewhere. Her experience, as she reported, really frightened me. She was a very angry person and had to have the ADR removed in USA.
This Dr is world renowned minimal surgery guy, so they say...
Willkommen im Alpha Spine Center*-*HERNIATED DISC

[B13s]

Originally Posted by Crystal33

Some months ago i stumbled across a website by a USA girl working in Germany who had a back op by Dr B while there. I didn't bookmark the site but it is out there somewhere. Her experience, as she reported, really frightened me. She was a very angry person and had to have the ADR removed in USA.
This Dr is world renowned minimal surgery guy, so they say...
Willkommen im Alpha Spine Center*-*HERNIATED DISC

Her story is also on ispine:
One year Hell ADR in Germany (L4/5).Revision to fusion.
There is also website dedicated to her story - just check profile of Job13

[raymond]

Try to find her story on anastasiascott.com Its her site I came across looking for some advice and help myself.

[Keano16]

Originally Posted by Crystal33

Some months ago i stumbled across a website by a USA girl working in Germany who had a back op by Dr B while there. I didn't bookmark the site but it is out there somewhere. Her experience, as she reported, really frightened me. She was a very angry person and had to have the ADR removed in USA.
This Dr is world renowned minimal surgery guy, so they say...
Willkommen im Alpha Spine Center*-*HERNIATED DISC

Minimally-invasive spine surgery is something completely, completely different.

And yes, Dr. Hoogland is one of the pioneers, leaders and innovators in this field.

[Gil Denis]

Hello

I have seen B13s story and it was shocking
I am thinking things over and re thinking about MISS to do the least procedures first.
I could have a lot of little surgeries and do O.K. or do one large surgery and hope it works or be @%$#@ up for ever!!

Thanks For your concern

Gil

[mmglobal]

We are all on a sliding scale of risk vs. potential benefit. Doing MISS is a no brainer if you are a good candidate and stand a reasonable chance of success. The farther you are down the road of degeneration, failed conservative treatment, failed MISS, etc... the less likely you are to find success with the less invasive, minimally invasive, non-invasive treatments. At some point, it becomes wishful thinking.

While MISS is lower risk than bigger, open procedures, they are not risk free. There is also risk involved in not addressing mechanical issues in a timely manner.

The bottom line is that needing to have this discussion means you are in trouble. We have very few options and they all suck. We are just looking for the option that sucks less.

Mark

[Keano16]

Well said....

[Maria]

Gil,
I had a percutaneous surgery on L4 back in '92. Band aide surgery, not open not big scars, supposedly less time to recover, spent in bed and so forth.

First surgery was big/open bilateral discectomy of L5S1 and partial laminectomy.


I did better with first surgery. 2nd failed miserably. Maybe it was because it was newer surgery back then and/or the surgeon sucked out too much disc, whatever...

Now I've waited 4 years since I was last authorized to have surgery. WC here in CA is doing nothing .. no ESIs no surgeries and besides that my endplates and facets are now not in shape for ADR re my OSS.

He even said this last time that I have so many levels of degeneration he wouldn't want to do anything unless he absolutely had to (which I think is the only way thru WC now I could get anything done).

So there's my story with less invasive surgery and waiting. I've done better I must admit with ESIs, drugs and so forth tho I doubt I can withdraw off the drugs and have any semblence of relief and now I guess there isn't much I can do about my spine options or at least here in the good ol' USA unless I plan on paying for whatever surgery recommended.

Funny.. what I was trying to avoid would probaby be my only option now and that's multi level fusion. Not really funny. Crappy spines suck. I believe now there is more than likely an optimal time for the right procedure for the right patient with the right doctor. Even then one must realize there are no guarantees. We have to take the leap of faith so to speak when timing is right. Each person figures that out for his or herself.

[Crystal33]

It's hard to know the consequences of long term failed conservative treatment. A friend showed me a recent scan of her lumbar spine. She had back pain, but no surgery, for 30 years. L3 & L4 were thin and black and L5/S1 was half naturally fused, her body must have resorbed almost the whole disc over time. She works full time and cleans her house. It amazed me.

[Bellesey]

I contacted Dr B's US representative online to inquire of process and ADR adjacent fusion costs. Tim Vicknair, with European Medical Tourist called me within hours
providing basic info.
I was relieved to hear my doctor in Tampa (Dr John Small) knows Dr Bertagnoli and said he was a good surgeon. (My insurance will not cover surgery here in US.) I am seriously considering Dr. B.

I have C5-6 & 6-7 fused (14 yrs) and my Dr Small is recommending I avoid another fusion at C4-5 due to his projection of degeneration rate at C3-4.

Hope this helps.

Has anyone had success with Spinal Canal Stimulator? (Trying to buy time and degree amount of pain meds). Thank you! God Bless...

[Gktm300]

First off how is your nerve irritation doing? And secondly that lady that complained about dr b I was told her story by B if anyone is interested. It's probably true but I can't swear to it cause I heard it second hand.

[Gktm300]

was told she did have a bad disc but it was probably not her pain indicator she chose to have surgery and as predicted by dr b it didnt not relieve her pain. also he offered to help her free of charge but he was not a sacrum dr. i heard this directly from the good dr