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Intellectually, I believe what Dr. J says. I'm very skeptical, but...
I had a funny thing happen in one of my early trips with a client to a world-leading surgeon. The client was extolling the virtues of eccinacia in avoiding colds or reducing symptoms. I told him that I thought it was placebo effect and I didn't believe much in it. A few minutes later, the doctor came in and the patient asked him about eccinacia. Yeah, he uses it and he uses airborne too. It took me another couple of years to come of my skeptical high horse and I was getting sick upon returning exhausted from Germany several times/year. I started using Airborne and while believe what Justin says,,, I won't look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't care why it works or if I'm a nut job... I just think it helps me reduce / avoid colds. 'scuse me, I have to go change the razor blades under the pyramid. Mark
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Dale, yes.... I grew up in Southern California in the 60's. What's a neti?
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Mark, yeah, it's more like ice-fishing time here in Minnesota than water-skiing time! Bring a warm coat and maybe boots if it's snowing. Right now we're in a veritable heat wave, with high's in the 40's. Doubt it will last though. Just a tease. Spring is a long way off still.
I forgot I have a neti pot. Will have to try that again. I didn't know you could buy a ready made solution for it. I used to make my own, but I'll stop by the drugstore and see if they carry what Dale was talking about. Thanks you guys. See you soon, Mark, Cindylou (if it works out at all, it would be nice to try and at least have a cup of coffee or something sometime Sunday, no?)
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I love the neti pot, albeit a little weird the first couple of times you use it. I actually buy those cheap 'bulb syringes' that you use to suck boogers out of a baby's nose. I suck the solution into it and then squirt it in my nose (good visual, eh?) My sister has actually put apple cider vinegar in her nose for allergies. She says it burns like hell; but feels great afterward. I don't know, too painful for me, seems like it could be harmful; but she and others swear by it (the ole if your friend jumps off a cliff, would you?)
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CL if you can get vit C with Zinc it's much more potent than C alone
Also if you can stomach it...try swallowing pieces of raw garlic. Obviously you can;t chew it...yuk...and it may repeat on you but well worth it in my experience! Cathy |
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Mark,
Just so you know, I wasn't posting my opinion in regard to Airborne based off of your post (I wasn't trying to be on a high horse ). We see a lot of people using it when they come in for appointments, and it's been our habit to make them aware of the high vitamin A levels contained in the supplement. If someone feels it "works" for them, I won't question their usage...just remember not to exceed the recommended dose. Until there is substantial evidence-based medicine that Airborne in fact "works," I'm going to save the little money I do have. I guess I can add it to my 2 cents above. Quote:
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-Justin 1994 Football Injury 1997 Snow Skiing Injury Laminotomy L4/L5 (3.7.97--17 years old) 1999 & 2003 MVA (not at fault both times) Grade V Tears L4/L5 & L5/L6 2-Level ProDisc® L4/L5 & L5/L6* *lumbosacral transitional vertebra (11.15.03--23 years old) Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli -- dr-bertagnoli.com Pain-free for the last 4.5 yrs. 5.14.09 DSS with Dr. B. I'm here to help. Only checking PMs currently. |
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A neti pot or other facsmile ( I use a bottle) along with a special solution, readily available at all drug stores... and though I know this sounds gross, it's actually quite beneficial and soothing, is a nasel and sinus cleaning vessel. Leaning over the sink, you pour the liquid (usually a powder with tap water) into one nasel passage and it come out the other after going through your sinus cavity. Repeat on other side.
It should be used at least once daily but when I'm with my grandkids or on a very windy day, I might use it twice. It rids your nose and sinuses of germs and allergens. Almost feels like water up your nose while swimming but it doesn't hurt, just feels weird. Warning, use very warm water!
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Dale... I was referring to my own high horse. Even though a doctor that I truly respected said he used it... I still thought it was bunk. It took another couple of years for me to give it a try and in my experience, it helps.
Thanks for the info on nasal irrigation.
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Cindylou,
Hey, I just checked the weather.... you didn't tell me that it is getting down into the 20's at night!!! I was hoping to get some water-skiing in with MicheleH and her clan.... but she says there is ice in the lake! OK... I'll bring a coat. See you in a few days! Mark
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