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CERVICAL ADR....USA or Europe!
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01-07-2011, 08:20 PM
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Cervical ADR
Cervical ADR in Germany (Dr. Zeegers in particular):
1. Less expensive than in the U.S.(even with flight and lodging considered). 2. Far, far better medical care. 3. The absolute best surgeon; likely better outcome. 4. Latest and greatest prosthesis; USA models are obsolete compared to what they are using in Europe. That's my opinion, Jeff
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19+ years back pain w/ advancing disc degeneration. 2002-2 level lumbar IDET w/ Nucleoplasty (very unsuccessful; huge setback) Three level lumbar Charite (L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1) with Dr. Zeegers in Munich, Germany: 2/25/05 (successful) Two level cervical Mobi-C (C5/6, C6/7) 2/2/07 with Dr. Zeegers (successful) Laser Facet Coagulation (left side: L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1 & sacral) 11/04/10 with Prof. Dr. Reul / Beta Klinik (significant reduction in remnant lumbar & sacral pain) 
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01-09-2011, 08:05 PM
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Pattygo,
I had a 3 level cervical ADR done in Barcelona Spain by Dr. Clavel. He implanted 3 m6 cervical discs into my neck, c5/6,c6/7,c7/t1, and i am 32 days post op and feelin pretty dasrn good, improving daily. 1. Excellent surgeon....Dr. Pablo Clavel 2. Excellent hospital.... Quiron Hospital....(clean and my own private room) 3. Nursing staff friendly and compassionate 4. EXCELLENT m6 device 5. A wonderful out of country experience, after being discharged from the hospital, my sister and I walked at least 40 miles within the following week sightseeing and be mesmerized by the city. Just my experience, Sincerly Jarrod
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01-10-2011, 04:33 AM
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My understanding based on my research.
FDA has not yet approved multi-level cervical ADR. You can get the surgery in the US by participating in a study. One US doctor who offered me multi-level cervical ADR in 2008, Delamarter, LA Spine Institute. Very experienced ADR surgeon. Consult was about $500. My other option is Germany, which I did have my first ADR there, and had a very good experience. It is a little scary, but more common than you can imagine.
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MVA 2005 - impinged and displaced cord at C5/C6 Prodisc C5/C6 2006 Germany - Dr. Bertagnoli C6/C7 no bulge, just tears and fissures. Multiple ministrokes 2009 prevents ADR surgery As of 10/2010 no relief on radicular C7 Trying to arrange C6/C7 prodisc FDA has not approved for 2nd Levels on cervical. Headed to Germany as soon as I am cleared for surgery.
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01-10-2011, 11:59 PM
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trials are usually single level
I have looked into trial here in the US. They only one I found for the new m6c, which is supposidly now closed to any new participants, was only for single level. You see, they do not want anything to place a higher chance of a negative out-come for their trial. It will be a long wait here and if one is already talking adr, they usually can't wait to long.
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female age 45, height 5"6", 145 lbds, non smoker, conservative treatments failed, (7/2007) C4/5/6 peek disc replacements,plate & screws failed fusion, (9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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01-11-2011, 05:09 AM
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I got a "green cash" quote from a reputed experienced adr surgeon in the US for multilevel adr that was very close to the european cost year and a half go. I went to Europe anyway for reasons other then the exact cost but not having to travel for close to the same cost by an experienced US surgeon is worth a consideration especially if your myleopathy could be made worse by travelling.
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Nov 07: STALIF Fusion L5/S1 ACTIV-L ADR L4/L5 Nov 09: Prodisc-C ADR 2 level C 4/5/6
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01-11-2011, 08:10 PM
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Trials
U.S. Trials aren't just trials for the prosthetic device, but also trials for the surgeon. Something to keep in mind.
Experience can be an important factor. -Jeff
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19+ years back pain w/ advancing disc degeneration. 2002-2 level lumbar IDET w/ Nucleoplasty (very unsuccessful; huge setback) Three level lumbar Charite (L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1) with Dr. Zeegers in Munich, Germany: 2/25/05 (successful) Two level cervical Mobi-C (C5/6, C6/7) 2/2/07 with Dr. Zeegers (successful) Laser Facet Coagulation (left side: L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1 & sacral) 11/04/10 with Prof. Dr. Reul / Beta Klinik (significant reduction in remnant lumbar & sacral pain)
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01-11-2011, 11:49 PM
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Quote:
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female age 45, height 5"6", 145 lbds, non smoker, conservative treatments failed, (7/2007) C4/5/6 peek disc replacements,plate & screws failed fusion, (9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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