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11-18-2008, 07:47 PM
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As I understand it, the peek rod systems are designed to be flexible and are used in conjunction with some sort of interbody spacer.
Mark
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11-18-2008, 08:53 PM
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That's the way I understood it. Unless he felt the discs were not that bad off, but I still feel a constant pain on the right side in the back and upper glute. Maybe your onto that Chemical leakage you were talking about. Only toe and sciatic pain with increased activity or prolonged sitting really flares it up. Time will tell.
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11-19-2008, 12:39 AM
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The brain fog and lack of concentration were difficult to live with while on Neurontin, 2700mg daily, but the pain would have been worse. I tried twice to get off until this time last year when pain was finally at livable levels. If not remembering where I left my head was the price I had to pay for pain free days, so be it. However, knowing where it is makes life a little easier!
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11-19-2008, 10:02 PM
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Guy's point is well taken... reviewing radiologist report from Marty's other thread... sounds like no interbody spacer is discussed and disc bulges are still present, but the report seems to minimize the impact on the neural structures.
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11-21-2008, 04:09 AM
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I prefer Neurontin to Lyrica. I take 1800-2400mg and it helps the leg pain. I never got foggy but I do get foggy from the Oxy so who knows.
You definitely need a strong back for the 'ol ground & pound. I can't imagine trying to wrestle with my back. Are you a heavyweight? Maybe when you get better you can fight Lesnar. I wouldn't blame you if you fight him dirty either. The only way to beat that guy is to punch him in the yambag!
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11-21-2008, 12:01 PM
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On stage I was teetering from Middle to light heavy (176-185). I would never roll at that weight due to the simple fact of how depleted the body is. I would now jump in about 200. However, in my youth I was full of P+V at 140. BTW, they all fight dirty. But it's a clean kinda dirty. No groin shots and no eyes. PKA and KICK rule were different when I started, then it became real and that's when the real pain started. Luckily I had a great ground coach and live only 1 hour from the Dillman camp. Dillman was great for P.P. training which was great for us strikers learning ground later. It was fun while it lasted. But at 42, one must face reality and realize that it's over. Knowing what I know now, I never would have gone F.C. It's not worth it when we get older. The ones that suffer are the kids and that's just not fair to them.
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Martial arts for 25 years Full contact MMA 7 years Body building last 7 years (no Problems) 4-07 Fall down step holding daughter 5-07 L5-S1 buldge MRI 9-07 L5-S1 herniation W/DDD and annular tear MRI 3 epidurals / 2 nerve root injection / 6 weeks of PT 8/01/2008 L4-S1 Posterior Spinal fusion only, using the PEEK ROD system. No Vertebral spacer and disc is still there. So is the pain!!!! 4 More weeks of PT and things are worse now than before. I must train again.
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11-18-2008, 09:08 PM
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but the spacer doesn't necessitate removing the whole disk? or am I reading it all wrong
from martyusa cat scan report L4-L5 There is a mild broad based disc bulge but no herniation or subarticular recess narrowing. The disc bulge causes mild urinary both neural foramina without impingements of the nerve roots. Unchanged from MRI L5-S1 There is a broad-based disc bulge with a right subarticular disc protrusion touching but not compressing the right S1 nerve root and right subarticular recess. The disc bulge causes mild inferior both neural foramen without impingement of the L5 nerve root. Unchanged from MRI which would indicate that there is still a disc there? I wold have thought if the disc was so bad they would have done a PLIF or an ALIF and actually removed the entire disk(this is what happens in a PLIF or ALIF isn't it?), or may of suggested the route of fuse L5-s1 and ADR l4-l5. I'm just so suprised that most docotrs don't recognise chemical radiculopathy from a damaged disc. My GP thought I was out of my mind whn I even suggested it. I think it is more common than they realise.
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