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Old 04-02-2009, 12:43 AM
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Without actually tallying the total, I'd say 95-99% were turned down by insurance. You stuck to your guns and got it approved. Good for you. When is your surgery scheduled?

I wish you good luck, Dale
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:47 AM
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Without actually tallying the total, I'd say 95-99% were turned down by insurance. You stuck to your guns and got it approved. Good for you. When is your surgery scheduled?

I wish you good luck, Dale
Thanks! No date yet. We're waiting for the Bryan disc to be approved, which should be very shortly, and then schedule it out far enough to give us time to fight round 2 with Aetna.
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:13 AM
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Good for you for sticking up for yourself. It sounds like you may win the battle. I wish you luck in the continuing fight and hope that this goes well for you. Please keep us informed. Many here have not been so lucky and it's refreshing to hear some success stories in battling the insurance gods.

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Old 04-02-2009, 02:21 AM
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Welcome and good job on fighting the insurance. I tried and gave up. My last denial said that due to my age that there was no guarantee on how long the disc would last. I got in a clincal trial, had surgery and am in recovery. You will soon be on the other side too, best wishes, Kathy
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:36 PM
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My surgery is finally scheduled for August 5! My wife and I go to Kauai for our 10th, come back on July 23. Pre-op appts July 28. I will be getting the Bryan disc. this all assumes that insurance doesn't throw a fit over the change of devices. Time will tell.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:31 PM
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Great news! Good luck on getting insurance to approve the change in device.

And have a very nice anniversary in Hawaii.
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PT, ESI's, Facet injection and block, Acupuncture - all no help.

2-level (Prodisc-L) ADR surgery with Dr. Bertagnoli, May 26, 2009.

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Old 07-01-2009, 01:17 AM
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Hi Jason,
Have a great vacation and best wishes with surgery! please let us know how it goes and if the h/a's go away as I've had a huge increase in neck pain/headaches (migraines) and I do have disc bulge at C 5/6 albeit small and the OSS I see is unconcerned (last MRI done Nov.2008).

Hope all goes great for you with upcoming surgery and recovery
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:37 AM
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The insurance industry is set up to say no and wear you down while you are fighting them. They have the upper hand because while their employees are just doing their job in saying no, we the patients are gettlng stressed out and broke and emotional. They count on that. They also count on the patient to give up because many do. I'm not sure of the actual % that give up, but I'm sure the insurance industry does.
I have had my own personal struggle with the insurance companies. I got everything I wanted by NEVER giving up and played the game by their rules.

I actually have a case pending:

I went to a foot doctor because of foot pain. I was diagnosed with plantar fasciitis. I was given PT, a cortizone injection, and a prescription for orthodics to wear in my shoes. I needed to get prior authorization from Aetna for the orthodics which we got. I paid the co-pay, the orthodics were molded and in a few weeks I had them and used them everyday. We e e elllllll......
I get a letter a few weeks later saying that Aetna is really not paying for the orthodics because it is experimental and should not be one of the first treatments given for plantar fasciitis. This is after they had already approved it. So my foot doctor is appealing and was actually denied first appeal. We are on the second appeal with the doctor's office. If we happen to lose third appeal I can begin a lawsuit on my own since I would not have gotten the orthodics had they not been approved in the first place.
I think that someone initially approved the orthodics, then at the end of the month when the bean counters did their budget some red flags went up and they reversed those prior auths. like they never happened. Well I have all the papers approving the orthodics and that's what I went by so I trust Judge Judy to be fair & honest when I bring Aetna into her court for a couple hundred of dollars and alot of principle. Luckily I can spend time in court as long as I have a place to lay down.
I would also go to Judge Mathis. He's cool man!
So this is typical for insurance companies. I've gotten used to all this crap in the past 6 years. It's hard to keep a cool head when dealing with insurance people but try. It's frustrating having to micromanage your life surrounded by incompetants, but if you don't micromanage your life, nobody else is going to do it for you unless you're a multi-millionaire and can afford a personal micromanager.

Maybe Mark can add personal micromanaging to his list of patient advocate duties? I think Mark is way too nice to yell at the insurance companies the way they need to be yelled at. Maybe a gangsta rapper would be a good person to deal with them, better yet, state prisoners and we can pay them in cigarettes.


Or we can outsource to India...
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