Chiropractic Before and After Surgery

[dshobbies]

Your post is very generalizing. True, some doctors should not be practicing but others are caring and concerned. Medical science has bounderieswhich are thankfully, constantly being pushed further and further but spine and nerve knowledge is still quite young.

I'm sorry if you had a bad experience. I don't agree with your assessment of the entire medical community.

[jsewell]

ADR seeker, sometimes you make me laugh you are so negative about our doctors. I have to tell you , i have had some bad docs and some bad complications from a world renowned surgeon, but i can't generalize like you do.

By the way , i did have months of chiropractic care before my first cervical surgery. my chiro sent me with my xray to my spine ortho.
My USA trained surgeon did just have me stand in front of him at my last appointment. He did in January do an amazing surgery on me to fix my fractured neck and kyphosis. It feels great and he is being very cautious with me still in a brace. He does care about me and my other health issues. He consults other specialists about my health concerns. I have had 10 surgeries in the last 4 years, a lot of them spine, # 11 on my foot tomorrow. I feel better and can stand better because of them. I have had a lot of great doctors. a few of them were foreign born, but choose to live and work in this wonderful country of ours.
I have not been butchered, just helped. the bad docs i did away with and had to report some. but they are all just people and some are in it for the wrong reasons.

Please tell us your story so we can understand where you are coming from. I really want to hear it, maybe we can even help you in some way. I will be laid up with foot surgery after tomorrow and have all the time in the world for you. Please tell, i am serious.
Judy

[ADR seeker]

Originally Posted by jsewell

ADR seeker, sometimes you make me laugh you are so negative about our doctors. I have to tell you , i have had some bad docs and some bad complications from a world renowned surgeon, but i can't generalize like you do.

By the way , i did have months of chiropractic care before my first cervical surgery. my chiro sent me with my xray to my spine ortho.
My USA trained surgeon did just have me stand in front of him at my last appointment. He did in January do an amazing surgery on me to fix my fractured neck and kyphosis. It feels great and he is being very cautious with me still in a brace. He does care about me and my other health issues. He consults other specialists about my health concerns. I have had 10 surgeries in the last 4 years, a lot of them spine, # 11 on my foot tomorrow. I feel better and can stand better because of them. I have had a lot of great doctors. a few of them were foreign born, but choose to live and work in this wonderful country of ours.
I have not been butchered, just helped. the bad docs i did away with and had to report some. but they are all just people and some are in it for the wrong reasons.

Please tell us your story so we can understand where you are coming from. I really want to hear it, maybe we can even help you in some way. I will be laid up with foot surgery after tomorrow and have all the time in the world for you. Please tell, i am serious.
Judy

In a way you proved my point. You maybe the exception that proves the rule.

I understand that there are going to be some lousy doctors I mean somebody had to finish last in their medical class but there are not just a few bad ones. If auto mechanics, or plumbers were as bad as these guys they would not be in business. Doctors are the only industry that make even more money when they screw up.

They call fusion the "Gold Standard" and they are right.. it really rakes in the gold. In fact it's a gold mine or a cow that when you milk it gives gold milk. Fusion should be a last resort after an ADR has been used. The outcomes of fusion are dismal. Even the industry numbers show that.

I advocate for weight loss surgery victims. Gastric bypass is also called the Gold Standard. It is barbaric, unethical and criminal. It kills 1 in 50 but the industry tells "patients" that it kills 1 in 200. That's a lie.

There is no regulatory agency that oversee the actions and conduct of MD and hospitals and that is why the US has the worst health care in the industrialized world.

They only care about the money. I am not saying all or even most doctors are bad although as a whole they are a greedy and arrogant bunch. I am saying that the system is set up to punish the good ones and reward the bad ones.

I, (my alter ego Fat Bastard) have a blog that I will not post the link to here that is a data base and a commentary on US health care. I liken US health care to the holocaust.

[jsewell]

I don't feel my life is dismal after all the fusions i have going on in my spine. It is truly much better and i was never a candidate for an ADR .

Just curious are there other groups in the US that you are so negative about?

Still did not say what your whole spinal issue is. Why with your great knowledge have you not sought out the best country for your health care.
Which ones are the tops with the greatest docs in your world.?
I'm very curious,
judy

[ADR seeker]

Originally Posted by jsewell

I don't feel my life is dismal after all the fusions i have going on in my spine. It is truly much better and i was never a candidate for an ADR .

Just curious are there other groups in the US that you are so negative about?

Still did not say what your whole spinal issue is. Why with your great knowledge have you not sought out the best country for your health care.
Which ones are the tops with the greatest docs in your world.?
I'm very curious,
judy

My condition is.

stenosis foraminal and canal, spur, and DDD from 3-4 to 6-7 with herniation at 5-6 left nerve root compression and cord contacted and indented.

I am not sure what country has the best docs but I would guess France, Italy, Germany, Brazil, India and Japan. The MD in the US are for the most part greedy deadly, arrogant and overpaid IMO.

For the most part I think the US does most things really well. We have the best military, best space program, OK education, good transportation, ect.. Our agencies that regulate other industries do a decent job IMO. Health care is out of control and the corporate gangsters who are running it are no better than the Nazis or the Islamo-Fascists.

In the 60s the US had the best health care. Now we have the worst. The baby boomers and other punks who are running things now are slime. If I saw some 30 million a year big pharma CEO I'd spit in his face.

[dshobbies]

My ADR surgery was in Germany. It left me with severe nerve damage to my left leg which by itself is disabling. I guess I should be blaming the German health care system?

Does our health care system need revision? Could it be better? Of course. Is it profit driven – absolutely, though most of us agree the insurance companies are the main culprit. Does that group the entire community into non-caring egocentric maniacs? Certainly not - and your comparison to a group who maimed, tortured and killed for pleasure and out of hatred is disgusting. Perhaps this is the reaction you're aiming for?

I don't know who did what to you but this kind of detestation is unhealthy. I'd be more sympathetic but so far all you've posted were hateful rants. Have you ever considered counseling?

[ADR seeker]

Originally Posted by dshobbies

My ADR surgery was in Germany. It left me with severe nerve damage to my left leg which by itself is disabling. I guess I should be blaming the German health care system?

Does our health care system need revision? Could it be better? Of course. Is it profit driven – absolutely, though most of us agree the insurance companies are the main culprit. Does that group the entire community into non-caring egocentric maniacs? Certainly not - and your comparison to a group who maimed, tortured and killed for pleasure and out of hatred is disgusting. Perhaps this is the reaction you're aiming for?

I don't know who did what to you but this kind of detestation is unhealthy. I'd be more sympathetic but so far all you've posted were hateful rants. Have you ever considered counseling?

Most people have good things to report regarding ADRs and Germany although Stenum is a factory form what I have read and they do some unethical things. Google Stenum Nightmare. Here's the link for Stenum Nightmare Stenum Nightmare - Stenum Nightmare

Insurance profits are down and health care profits are up. The insurance companies are not angels but the medical industry is price gouging them too. Billing fraud is rampant and nobody goes to jail. There is a criminal in Florida named Rick Scott. He bought the governorship. Rick's company Colombia HCA was fined 1.7 BILLION for thousands of counts of billing fraud.

Scott did not go to jail even though his many crimes were far worse than Maddoff or Ken Lay. I think he's guilty of treason along with many people in the health care industry and I would volunteer for the firing squad jut so long as I could kill them over a week with a BB gun. If anyone should be tortured in Gitmo it is corporate gangsters of medical industry. People who steal from and harm Americans are traitors. They are behind the Medical Holocaust.

[ADR seeker]

Originally Posted by dshobbies

Your post is very generalizing. True, some doctors should not be practicing but others are caring and concerned. Medical science has bounderieswhich are thankfully, constantly being pushed further and further but spine and nerve knowledge is still quite young.

I'm sorry if you had a bad experience. I don't agree with your assessment of the entire medical community.

In the US we pay 3 times the world average for health care. We have the highest paid doctors in the world and a doctor shortage at the same time. We also put a man on the moon in 1969.

Read about what the Canadian judicial Mafia did to Dr Kuntz in the 70's because he was implanting artificial disks in the 70's with a 98% success rate. ADR have been around since 1955.

Consider this as you ask this question. What diseases have been cured in the past 50 years? Do you really think the medical industry has out best interest at heart.

The truth of the matter is, health wise people are worse off today than they were 50 years ago. You may say that there have been advances in cancer treatment but that is not entirely true and the survival rate has only improved by 2%

Google medical tourism and read up on that. Find out why close to 2 million Americans go overseas for health care each year.

Google health care acquired infections and you will see that the odds of getting one are 1 in 10 and that is based on a voluntary reporting system.

Google Peter Pronvonost or Google Pronvonost Protocol. It is a simple way to eliminate most nosocomial infections. Then ask yourself why it is not being implemented and if you are going duh... this does not make sense consider the revenue a hospital gets for keeping a patient for an extra week because their pig stye of a hospital made them sick. Peter Pronvonost is a Noble Prize winner.

Google Dr Barbara Starfield and you will read about her AMA study showing that the third leading cause of death in the US is doctors. Dr Starfield is the leading public health physician in the US.

How many medication errors does say Walgreens Pharmacy make in a year? Maybe zero but your average hospital pharmacy makes 10 a day! Do you think this is just bad luck? This kind of incompetence is by design.

Medical blunders kill a minimum of 400,000 Americans each year and that is based on the 27 states that report medical errors. In reality medical errors in one year kill more American that World War 2 did.

Silicone has been around for medical use for at least 50 years and it has proven to be fairly safe and if it is sequestered it is 100% safe. The Neo Disk is mesh and silicone. This is tinker toy technology. The Neo Disk could have been created and used 50 years ago and everyone is acting like it is a miracle.

Now I will go off on a tangent a bit and tell you about the AIDS scam. It is a fact that 1% of White people are immune to AIDS/HIV. Are we not being told that there is no vaccine for AIDS because of the way HIV mutates?? People have been cured of HIV/AIDS with bone marrow transplants from doners with HIV immunity. The medical industry is silent as is the mainstream media.

You are suffering because you hurt your back and you are not much better of and maybe worse off than when granny hurt her back when it comes to treatment. You are suffering because an industry makes more money keeping people sick.

Let's say there was a one time cure for most back problems. That cure would cut the revenue of the back pain industry by 2/3s. The same hold true for AIDS, cancer, arthritis, MS, obesity ect..

I admit it. I am a heretic and I have nothing but contempt for an industry that in my opinion is more corrupt and sinister than the Roman Empire and the Third Riech combined.

Other than a rant what's my point? Don't take this lying down. Stop being a sheeple lemming and complain loudly and often. The M6 and Neo Disk are made in the USA and they both received the CE Mark so they are safe and reliable. FDA approval or disapproval is meaningless when it comes to patient safety. There is one word to describe the FDA and most members of the US health care industry and that word is whore.