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Old 05-13-2009, 02:49 PM
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ok, speaking of stress....

did you every argue with your significant other/husband/wife where they think you are being close minded to their opinion about what procedure you are going to have done because you know you DO NOT want fusion???!!! We got in a big argument because I would rather be in pain than have fusion and he thinks I haven't researched all the pros and cons of it and I have my mind only set on ADR...

It's just so frustrating
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May 11th Dr Apptment - Told that another Discsectemy could be done.

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Old 05-13-2009, 03:25 PM
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Thankfully my husband has complete trust in the research I have done regarding my upcoming surgery.

I have to tell you though, that I've had to do a complete 180 in my own opinions. I researched ADR vs fusion for over a year, and was headed for what I thought was the right plan...four ADRs. Because of several reasons, including problems with insurance, etc. I've had to look elsewhere and I am now comfortable with getting hybrids, ADR plus fusion.

And I am only comfortable with this because of the superb reputation of the surgeon. He explained things well (although I still need some more questions answered), and while I have had to compromise on my previous decision, I feel it is going to be fine.

If someone had told me six months ago that I would accept fusion, I would have thought them insane. But I opened my mind once again, and accepted that there may be more than one answer to the same question.

I truly hope that you find the answer you are looking for. This is a very tough road.
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:15 PM
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My boyfriend and I did have one argument because he thought I should just deal with the pain, and if it were him he wouldn't choose surgery. But, he's come around.

And like Katie, he respects the research I've done, and knows that this is the best decision for me.

It's difficult when you feel your significant other is not supportive. Or trivializes your pain.
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46 years old. 12-15 years of intermittent pain, 2 years with constant pain.

DDD, L4-5 and L5-S1, pain confirmed by discogram.
PT, ESI's, Facet injection and block, Acupuncture - all no help.

2-level (Prodisc-L) ADR surgery with Dr. Bertagnoli, May 26, 2009.

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Old 05-13-2009, 04:28 PM
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Symara,

I'll post more on this subject when I get home tonight (I'm at work, but not getting much done... ), but if you'll send me a private message with your email address, I'll send you some really good material that I've gathered about the benefits of ADR vs. fusion that you can give to your husband to read, if you'd like.

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MRI 4/2008 shows bulging disc with annular tear @ 4/L5 and and complete herniation at L5/S1.

9/11/08 Laminectomy , successful to a point...relieved nerve pain, but after 4 months was still having severe disc pain.

Treatments tried: epidural shots, oral pain killers, NSAID's, TENS massage, chiropractic care, deep tissue massage. Oh, and plenty of our homemade wine!

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Old 05-13-2009, 04:28 PM
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We have to understand that they don't necessarily have a frame of reference that would let them understand. It is often terrible when our spouses, families, friends and coworkers don't get what we are experiencing and therefore cannot support us in the way that we hope. However, it is sometimes unreasonable for us to expect them to. This is especially true when they have doctors or friends who are medical professional how have expectations about the options we pursue, without having informed knowledge about them.

Jess... treefrog... I'm looking forward to that iced cafe' in the town square with smiles and hugs all around. See you in a couple of weeks (or less!)

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Old 05-18-2009, 04:37 PM
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Sorry I haven't posted for a while. I see my pain management doctor tomorrow and I am going to tell him that the pain is driving me nuts. I went to see Kenny Chesney Friday night, and I woke up screaming in pain Saturday morning. My calfs were cramping real bad. They are still hurting. I must of done a little too much that night. I have PT tomorrow and maybe we can work them out. I will let everyone know what the doctor says.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:11 PM
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Eastex, many of my friends and family, including myself, have discovered that those really bad leg cramps (charlie horses) can be gotten rid of by taking magnesium supplement pills, or even the calcium magnesium ones. They seem to be caused by an imbalance of some kind.

The pain can be excruciating, and I was amazed that taking three or four of those pills that can be gotten from the drug store, can get rid of the cramps really quickly.

Even my mom takes them after getting some really expensive other supplements from her doctor a few years ago. They both work, but hers were breaking her budget

These may work for you, and sure can't hurt to try, as far as I know. I can't remember exactly which dose I was using, but it didn't seem to make that much difference.

This is much different than the nerve pain we experience from the spine, right? This is the cramping that drives you nuts, comes on suddenly and you have to get up and walk around to try and get rid of them? At least that is what it sounds like you are describing. Hope this works for you.
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Severe compression of spinal cord in two levels
All conventional therapy exhausted, including spinal injections, PT, massage, etc.
In appeal with Gov't Insurance for Out-of-country coverage for ADR hybrid surgery of above discs.
Recently discovered that I am severely allergic to all common metals used in surgical hardware except for Titanium.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:40 AM
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Eastex.

I am so jealous of you that you saw Kenny Chesney. You lucky dog!!!
That is on my list of fun things to do when I feel better.
I hope your pain management doctor can help you with your pain issues.
I went to see a high school senior play piano today. He was fabulous, but I have increased back pain today after got back.
I remember you from before you got surgery. I hope you are soon feeling better. Have to tell you I got those charlie horse cramps in my calves for months before they went away.
Jay Leno is on right now. We had a 4.7 earthquake yesterday. So Leno says that animals can sense earthquakes. He says, "My cat was twittering me yesterday before the earthquake". Something like that.

take care,

Runner
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