Advice on annular tear and mri results

[Magrego]

I want people who read this too know if you get worse from physio please get a second opinion. I was being tricked and manipulated to give more pain aggravating my nerves or had no clue what they are doing. I am very disappointed in the fact so called professionals will take advantage of their patients to have their injuries ongoing. also the surgeon who overlooked everything was probably his drinking buddy down the pub. good luck and thank you to those who care. The major nerve pain is due to the physio and I know it because ever since I attended his practice I became 80 % worse. He overlooked simple stretching techniques saying it was my discs. amateur physio or pro con artist you decide. but the doctor who solved my problems in 45 minutes was a fantastic gp. I feel really stupid now, although I was in a lot of pain stressing for a very good reason.

kind regards magrego

[Maria]

Generally here in the states the conservative route for an acute back prob is initally rest w/ice and or heat, some nonsteroidal antiinflammatory meds, and some PT if still feeling badly tho getting better. The initial PT eval is an assessment of the individual and their history then some passive stretching (done to the patient usually or assisted by the PT) and heat packs, ultrasound which will advance over the next few weeks to some specific exercises tho still usually starts out with the stretching and ends with a heat pack/rest.

If PT fails or one feels worse during PT it's considered "failed" and is stopped. So it's very common here to have PT as part of the initial treatment for something like an annular tear as long as the degree isn't so bad that one is in severe pain horrific pain going into the initial appt.

It's very common for disc bulges to be exaccerbated by PT. Sometimes it's overzealous and sometimes not~ just seems like one wrong move tho is probably that whatever is going on has just reached a level of "one more thing" to set it off.

I'm glad you got your problem addressed tho be careful as your annular tear can still lead to incredibly painful episodes or periods or it could just be "there" and not really bother you that much. That's sort of what my L3 annular tear did. However I suspect that my L4 and L5S1 disc had tears that progressed on further to bulges that were terribly problematic.

Over the years I just learned myself what exaccerbates my probs and what doesn't, what level of exercise and type I can do and what I can't. I make sure that PT's are very careful with my back tho even when trying to work on other areas like helping my right knee recover from 2 surgeries my low back probs were greatly exaccerbated. Just happened.

Good luck. If you've not checked out that chirogeek webpage please do so as that's got so much good information there re annular tears, disc bulges and other back probs it really gives one a good idea of what is going on.

Hope you continue to recover and feel much better! Keep us posted!

[Magrego]

I just did a little research on what the GP has pin pointed in 5 minutes of checking my body. I am sure the physio was just milking me because this was defiantly my issue for my lower back pain as I feel so tight in my hamstrings and my hip flexorIf you push on my abdominals I am so sore. I think the physio should have noticed this. Anyway here is a little reading I found if your interested low back pain hip flexor

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[Maria]

M,
the links were a good read, thanks. All my Physical Therapists have done thorough assessments prior to treatment and had the information of my MRI's and other diagnostic tests. I guess because I was referred by the Orthopedic Surgeon/specialist and insurance paid there was no "milking" done tho I'm sure it does go on in some places/practices/somewhere.

Anyway it's good to hear you're feeling better and I do hope that continues! Keep us posted

[Magrego]

ok...........................3 months of seeing numerous doctors even a chiro who said my hip was twisted. I then was hinted by another doctor my iliospoas was sore. so I stretched and it got a little better.

sciatica came on for 2 days then i stoped stretching and fell victim to intense stabbing pain aching especially in mornings...ect.

depression started and anxiety is taking over while my fear of never knowing what is really wrong. I went to pain management they were saying it was in my head and i needed to take anti depressents. I got upset because i know my pain is being caused by something.

5 months of stabbing and pulling pain. that would go away when I was more active, although I cannot sit at all or work. my hip clicks and i have tight and very sore below and above my waiste all over. what could it be a mystery?

no its muscles that are pulling and twisting things everywhere. I have diareha and constempation. Its beyond a joke as my central nervous system is goin nuts. i got second opinion from a spine speacialist who said i could lift weights and im a stressor. yet ive been told by a chiro I have a twisted hip.

so I didnt stop searching in a anxious and determined manner kept searching until I found some trigapoint charts

triggapoint charts - Google Search

groin chart - Trigger Point Technologies Australia


I booked into see a great massage therapist. after 1 day i felt my legs become free. day 2 massage today ( i still have pain but they found a massive rock hard ball in my groin. i have many other knots and had deep tissue work that is amazing.

I am all spaced out because of the toxins releasing. I think my knots are from having too many protien powder shakes with injuries and working out.

myafascial pain syndrome I guess? I will update the massage therapy results if anyone is interested to learn.

Myofascial Pain Syndrome | Chronic Muscle Pain - WebMD

[Magrego]

oh also id say because of the difficulty pin pointing my problems in medical shit holes. A lot of others here may have similar problems causing pain and dysfunction and go undiagnosed(average 35-40 month. oh nevr underestimate the pain of muscle trigger points and tightness. It was in my neck and evrywhere im sure this is my problem. I feel violated by sydney practitioners and supposed professionals. i only went undiagnosed for 5 months im the lucky one who found a needle in a hay stack

I thought i would also mention I have had 2 knee surgeys and also 3 car accidents. a contibutor to quadrus lumborian back problems. may have been 10 years of muscular problems from a car accident 110km into a telegraph pole Holden barina) and was triggered 10 years later by excessive desk work. I couldnt breath because seat belt strangled my waiste in the car accident. I released seat belt and I gasped for air. I had whiplash for 2 weeks and never got checked properly. maybe this is the contributor to my long dysfunctional process. who knows but I thought architecture was hard I will be glad too work again soon and let my massage therapist fix my body

kind regards magrego

[Maria]

Magrego,
Glad you found someone that works so well with your knots and pain. I had a wonderful PT that worked on me for a year when I first started pain management back in 2000-2001 and while I'd had myofascial releases done many times before which probably sustained me while I continued working this person had the "gift" of really being able to make a difference with his work w/trigger points/knots/myofascial releases and such.

Congrats on finding someone to help you and hope you'll continue with this recovery and relief! Maria